Is Politifact really the organization that should be fact checking Facebook on gun related facts?

29 Dec , 2016  

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If gun control advocates were more confident with their arguments, presumably they wouldn’t have to so grossly exaggerate their numbers.  On December 27th, 2016 Politifact evaluated this claim that there are 7 children a day who die from guns, and Politifact’s Chris Nichols concluded that this claim by Congresswoman Jackie Speier that “more than seven children PER DAY have died from gun violence” was “mostly true.”

Politifact relies on a quote from the Brady Campaign’s website: “Every day, 7 children and teens die from gun violence.” The website notes that it crunched CDC data for children and young people through age 19.

Are 18 and 19 year olds “children”?

For 2013 through 2015 for ages 0 through 19 there were 7,838 firearm deaths.  If you exclude 18 and 19 year olds, the number firearm deaths for 2013 through 2015 is reduced by almost half to 4,047 firearm deaths.  Including people who are clearly adults drives the total number of deaths.

Even the Brady Campaign differentiates children from teenagers.  If you just look at those who aren’t teenagers, the number of firearm deaths declines to 692, which comes to 0.63 deaths per day.

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Even just excluding 18 and 19 year olds reduces the number of firearm deaths by almost half to 4,047 firearm deaths, 3.7 per day.  Defining children as those under 15 reduces the number to 1,312, about 1.2 per day.  It isn’t that 18 and 19 year olds aren’t important, but Speier was obviously focusing on “children” for a reason.

Homicides are not Murders

Most people, apparently including the Brady Campaign, just assume that homicides and murders are the same, but the difference between them is that homicides include justifiable homicides.  Do you really want to lump in murders with cases where someone uses a gun to stop a murder or other crime from occurring?  For murders for those under 18 for 2013 to 2015, the total for those three years is 573 fewer deaths than homicides (1,551 firearm murders (2013 479, 2014 519, and 2015 553) versus 2,124 firearm homicides).

So for those under 18, if you add up murders 1,551, accidents 245, and suicides 1,589, you get a total of 3,385, not 4,047.

So for those under 13, if you add up firearm murders 338 (=92+124+122) , accidents 145, and suicides 77, you get a total of 560, not 4,047.  That comes to 0.51 deaths per day.

The CDC numbers that Politifact relies on is making comparisons include mistakes that the CDC still has not corrected.

Mixing in gang murders and other deaths.

The vast majority of these deaths for 15 to 19 year olds involve murders involving gangs, primarily drug gangs.   Linking children and guns is done to connote guns in the home for law-abiding households, but the causes and cures for drug gang violence are dramatically different children getting a hold of gun in law-abiding homes.  The notion that you are going to be able to pass laws to stop drug gangs from getting guns is about as easy as stopping those drug gangs from getting drugs to sell.  For a related discussion see here.  This is an additional reason to not include 15 to 19 year olds.

As an aside, during the three years that they studied the number of accidental gun deaths have declined from 59 in 2013 to 44 in 2014 to 42 in 2015.

Importantly disarming law-abiding citizens or locking up people’s guns makes them more vulnerable to criminals

The laws that Congresswoman Speier and the Brady Campaign are pushing lead to more deaths.  Regulations, such as “Safe Storage Laws,” disarm law-abiding citizens, thus encouraging criminals to attack and making them more likely to succeed in committing their crimes.

Do we really want Politifact serving as the fact checker for Facebook?

As the CPRC has previously written, fact checkers, such Politifact, have their own biases — usually the same liberal biases that we see in the rest of the mainstream media.  This latest example from Politifact just provides additional evidence for those concerns.


2 Responses

  1. Terry Fearnow says:

    What’s new about the liberal lefts agenda, they blind the left with false statistics to reinforce their agenda! They’re so blind they follow like sheep not ever knowing that their not doing good but harm! They want the violence to stop so bad that they don’t think about the innocent lives that will be lost when they are not allowed to have something to defend themselves with! Not to mention the gov’t. agenda of disarmimg the people so they can enslave us!

  2. Doug Dyer says:

    According to Politifact’s website, they have received grant money from the Democracy Fund, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and the Ford Foundation, all of which are known to support gun control. Although these organizations may not dictate Politifact’s content, they would not be giving money to content providers with whom they disagree. My conclusion: Like most of the mainstream media, Politifact is not a trustworthy source when it comes to gun control reporting. That’s unfortunate because America needs honest, unbiased news now more than ever.

    Source: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/blog/2011/oct/06/who-pays-for-politifact/

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