CPRC at the Voice of America on School Shootings

20 Oct , 2015  

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Voice of America, October 13, 2015

Critics, such as John Lott, president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, take issue with Everytown’s numbers.

“A number of fact checks have found significant mistakes in Everytown’s report,” Lott said in an email. “Among their mistakes, they include: shootings that are off of school property and do not involve people who have anything to do with the school, legitimate self defense gun uses, and gang shootings and lone suicides that were well outside of school hours that do not involve anyone connected to the school.” . . .

We provided links to fact checks at Politifact, CNN, and Fox News.  Politifact decided that the Bloomberg Everytown report was “mostly false.”


2 Responses

  1. gunnut says:

    UCC was not gun free zone. It has been confirmed by Rebecca Redell, UCC’s vice president and chief financial officer:

    “The student misconduct policy regarding firearms does not apply to students with a valid concealed weapons permit. There is a general prohibition against the possession of weapons on campus that would apply to College patrons, but this, similarly would not apply to those with valid concealed weapon permits pursuant to Oregon law”

    http://www.factcheck.org/2015/10/the-oregon-shooting-and-gun-free-zones/

    • johnrlott says:

      Dear “Gunnut”: I guess that you aren’t too familiar with the history of FactCheck.org (http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/09/24/analysis-fact-checkers-fall-short-in-criticizing-nra-anti-obama-ads.html). You might also want to have FactCheck.org talk to both the most recent past president and the current acting president for UCC (https://crimeresearch.org/2015/10/umpqua-community-college-is-yet-another-gun-free-zone/). Indeed, the school felt so strongly about the campus being a gun-free zone that they wouldn’t even let the campus security carry guns. I am also not sure why you are posting this comment here instead of in any of the discussions that we have had on this issue school being a gun-free zone.

      In any case, suppose that despite the student and faculty handbooks and the school website and the constant public comments from the administration, it isn’t a gun-free zone. It seems pretty clear that most permit holders would believe that the school was a gun-free zone and that would keep the vast majority from carrying. There is also the issue of whether the killer believed it was a gun-free zone.

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