Comments on: New Zealand killer’s manifesto says that he did attack to get more gun control/gun bans in New Zealand and the US, Killer was a socialist, environmentalist who hated capitalists and trade https://crimeresearch.org/2019/03/new-zealand-killers-manifesto-says-that-he-did-attack-to-get-more-gun-control-gun-bans-in-new-zealand-and-the-us-killer-was-a-socialist-environmentalist-who-hated-capitalists-and-trade/ Crime Prevention Research Center conducts research on laws regulating the ownership or use of guns, crime, and public safety. Fri, 06 Aug 2021 19:36:58 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.1.11 By: Reziac https://crimeresearch.org/2019/03/new-zealand-killers-manifesto-says-that-he-did-attack-to-get-more-gun-control-gun-bans-in-new-zealand-and-the-us-killer-was-a-socialist-environmentalist-who-hated-capitalists-and-trade/#comment-63247 Fri, 05 Jul 2019 13:56:34 +0000 https://crimeresearch.org/?p=25178#comment-63247 That’s an interesting point. Basically force these redflag laws to perform a criminal conviction without a trial, which as you say will not get far in the courts.

HOWEVER… there are similar laws in place with regard to dog ownership, where having certain breeds, or having “too many animals” means confiscation (and often conviction) without a trial; the principle is identical. And so far court challenges have been weak to nonexistent, because it’s been pushed as “stopping those evil puppy mills” (defined as literally anyone who breeds dogs professionally) and “stopping dog attacks” — both of which fly pretty well with insulated urbanites, and ANY accusation of ‘neglect’ or ‘abuse’ (no matter how fabricated or farfetched) results in loss of rights and property, with no right to face your accuser.

So don’t think it can’t happen with guns. It’s already happened with a softer target, and is procedurally so well established that where such laws exist, that softer target has been largely eliminated.

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By: Win Bigly https://crimeresearch.org/2019/03/new-zealand-killers-manifesto-says-that-he-did-attack-to-get-more-gun-control-gun-bans-in-new-zealand-and-the-us-killer-was-a-socialist-environmentalist-who-hated-capitalists-and-trade/#comment-63243 Fri, 05 Jul 2019 12:48:29 +0000 https://crimeresearch.org/?p=25178#comment-63243 “Depending on the definition. Worker ownership of the means of production? ”

The typical difference in academic circles between socialism and communism is “control” versus “ownership”. Usually it’s “government” control or ownership but here it’s “worker”. Assuming worker = government, his use of term “ownership” means he’s a communist, not a socialist.

FWIW, given the US government has control of the means of production via the court case Wickard v Filburn, the US is already socialist.

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By: John Lewis https://crimeresearch.org/2019/03/new-zealand-killers-manifesto-says-that-he-did-attack-to-get-more-gun-control-gun-bans-in-new-zealand-and-the-us-killer-was-a-socialist-environmentalist-who-hated-capitalists-and-trade/#comment-58013 Wed, 20 Mar 2019 16:28:45 +0000 https://crimeresearch.org/?p=25178#comment-58013 We can defeat ALL pending “Red Flag” legislation if we simply and loudly press the point that anyone who is so mentally deranged that they are an imminent danger to others will not suddenly become sane and harmless simply because they are temporarily deprived of guns. Such a homicidal maniac can easily get illegal guns or use any of dozens of other commonly owned items as a deadly weapon. Therefore, if the proponents of “Red Flag” laws honestly and sincerely want to prevent such a maniac from harming anyone, they must agree that THE DANGEROUS INDIVIDUAL MUST BE LOCKED UP, not merely deprived of his 2nd Amendment rights and allowed to go free to find some other way to commit murder. ALL 2nd amendment supporters in our legislatures MUST press for amendments to any “Red Flag” legislation that changes the focus from confiscating guns to LOCKING UP the supposedly dangerous INDIVIDUAL. This will emphasize that our 2nd amendment rights are just as valid and important as the right of “habeas corpus”. If the supporters of “Red Flag” laws are foolish enough to pass such an amended bill into law, it will immediately be challenged by the ACLU and other liberal organizations and thus struck down by SCOTUS. But if they reject the amendment, they will prove that they are lying hypocrites who actually have no interest at all in saving lives but in reality are merely exploiting this lie as a convenient excuse to rob innocent citizens of their Constitutional Rights to own the tools necessary for self defense.

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By: Bree https://crimeresearch.org/2019/03/new-zealand-killers-manifesto-says-that-he-did-attack-to-get-more-gun-control-gun-bans-in-new-zealand-and-the-us-killer-was-a-socialist-environmentalist-who-hated-capitalists-and-trade/#comment-57852 Sun, 17 Mar 2019 06:16:52 +0000 https://crimeresearch.org/?p=25178#comment-57852 https://crimeresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/The-Great-Replacement-New-Zealand-Shooter.pdf

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By: Scott Stillwell https://crimeresearch.org/2019/03/new-zealand-killers-manifesto-says-that-he-did-attack-to-get-more-gun-control-gun-bans-in-new-zealand-and-the-us-killer-was-a-socialist-environmentalist-who-hated-capitalists-and-trade/#comment-57829 Sat, 16 Mar 2019 14:49:45 +0000 https://crimeresearch.org/?p=25178#comment-57829 Link to the psychotic’s screed no workee.

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