Another tragedy: Another School Shooting in Another Gun-Free Zone, this time in Kentucky

23 Jan , 2018  

We have talked to many dozens of people who have been present at these mass public shootings.  The feeling of utter helplessness that these victims face as they try to hide from these killers is overwhelming. But with gun-free zones, the only person who has a weapon is the killer.  Last year the Kentucky state legislature considered legislation to get rid of gun-free zones at schools, but the legislation went nowhere.  When will the state legislature get rid of these gun-free zones?

From Fox News:

A 15-year-old student opened fire with a handgun inside a rural Kentucky high school Tuesday morning, killing two of his classmates, injuring 19 and sending hundreds fleeing for safety.

Police were seen leading a teenager away in handcuffs and said the suspect will be charged with murder. It was the nation’s first fatal school shooting of 2018.

Students ran for their lives out of Marshall County High School, jumping into cars and running down a highway, some not stopping until they reached a McDonald’s restaurant more than a mile away.

“They was running and crying and screaming,” said Mitchell Garland, who provided shelter to between 50 and 100 students inside his nearby business. “They was just kids running down the highway. They were trying to get out of there.” . . .

A summary of the arguments on this issue for this shooting is available here.

Educate yourself about mass public shootings:

Concealed handgun permit holders keep stopping mass public shootings (collections of cases here, here, and here).

Virtually all these mass public shootings keep occurring in places where general citizens are banned from having guns (see here).

These killers keep making statements about avoiding targets where people with guns might stop them (see here, though a more detailed discussion in a book is available here).

Information on insurance premiums for schools after they have allowed teachers and staff to carry guns is available here. There is no evidence that we could find that they increased.  The extremely low rate of accidental shootings is available here.

For academic research on mass public shootings declining where concealed handgun permits are allowed see here on the web and updated discussions in books here and here.

Info on mass public shootings around the world (available here, here, and here).

UPDATE: A couple legislators are pushing to let people carry guns on school property by adding a school marshal to schools.  Apparently, they proposed this bill the same day of the attack.  From the Courier Journal:

The school marshal would have to be an employee of the district or private school and must hold a license to carry a concealed deadly weapon.

The goal is to give schools another tool that can improve the safety of their institutions and help protect children from active shooter situations, West said.

“It gives them another option to enhance their security within the school building and it allows them to not be a soft target,” he said . . .

Here is an example of the type of signs that are up at the state schools.

7 Responses

  1. Koen says:

    Crazy, crazy American.

    All the best,

    The rest of the world

  2. BostonTea says:

    A hand grenade? This is Kentucky, not Sweden.

  3. Greg says:

    Gun Free Zones-Mass Murder Zones

  4. Tionico says:

    well, that new bill IS tiny baby step in a better direction. How long will it be before some murderous punk figures out how ti identyify the ONE person on the entire large campus who is armed…. then take HIM out first, probably also getting HIS weapon as well as the one he already has?

    Stupid people… we who hold the Mother May I Cards from our state governments have been shown to commit violent crimes at less than one tenth the rate of even law enforcement personnel.

    Do away completely with the Certified Defenseles Victim Zones that our schools, post offices, gummit buildings, etc, have become. Let anyone who may lawfully carry about upon their person a personal defensive weapon do so, wherever we go.

    I recently observed an armed FedGov official nosing and poling throigh women’s purses once their owners were inside some two bit federal office….. being rather obnoxious about it ad upsetting several of the women being so abused… meanwhile I observed a member of the public, apparently there to avail himself of the services of that Fed agency, who was carrying a rather well concealed (for the most part) handgun on his hip. The Fed dweeb never noticed. Nor did anyone besides myself, as far as I could tell. He was oblivious to what was going in IN the room, only playing the automaton he is paid to be to promote the charade that HE makes people in there safe. He also took a half hour break, leaving all of us under the protection of the one man who was armed, and whom any invading perp never would have suspected as a threat to his evil intent. The FedDweeb, on the other hand, was instantly recognisable as the only threat to any evildoer who might freely enter the room.

    What a joke.

    The punk at this school had already committed a fair number of felonies before he entered school grounds with his unlawfully possessed handgun. Possession in public under age, underage concealed carry, no permit to carry concealed, likely stole the handgun, as he could not buy that legally anywhere in the US, unlawful transport of a loaded handgun, and then we get to things like the Certified Disarmed VICTIM Zone, (he was not the victim, so HE was exempt? and possession of a deadly weapn with intent to harm. THAT all happened before he entered the building. THEN he murdered two people….

  5. Alan Buckley says:

    Can someone please clarify if these “gun free zones” have zero guns at them? The term “gun free zone” is so misleading. If there are armed, trained, security at a venue then calling it “gun free” is a misnomer. Take the Vegas massacre for example. That would be called a “gun free zone” by many gun rights activists but it wasn’t gun free. Far from it. It had armed, trained, professional guards.

    I’m all for having more professionally trained officers armed at soft targets but that’s it. For every case where you can find a private citizen stopping a violent situation with a firearm you can find cases where one doesn’t or an officer does.

    If you want your child or your family to attend non “gun free zones” meaning places that allow private citizens to carry concealed firearms then by all means only go to places like that. Home school your kids. Send them to private school. Move to a school district where private citizens can carry at school. If having private citizens armed everywhere is that important then back your ideology up with action but please don’t tread on everyone else.

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